Enlightement experience: how to get it?
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- It's a complex path but it is a path that certainly I think is worth following. Whether one ultimately gets to enlightenment or not may not even be the final word.
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It's a complex path but it is a path that certainly I think is worth following.
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Everybody says: oh yeah,
that sounds like that's great for me.
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Let me become enlightened
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and it's not an easy process obviously.
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Buddhist monks spend 30,
40 years trying to achieve
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enlightenment and some do
and some don't.
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So there's no one size fits
all it's not, there's no guarantee
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but part of what we
have learned again by looking
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at this survey and thinking
about this process, is:
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one you have to want to have
some change occur in your life.
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And whether that is just to
become a more open individual
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whether it is, you know, we all are
living through our brain.
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Our brain is interpreting the
world around us and it's doing
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the best job it can.
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But it's a scary
world out there.
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And we have no real way of
knowing if what we think
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on the inside is accurate.
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So the idea of can we learn
about the world in a different way
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and make that kind of a
change is an important one.
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Part of the Enlightenment
process is to find the ritual
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that ultimately,
the process that ultimately
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works best for you and whether
it is a spiritual or religious approach
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through a tradition
that a person grew up in,
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whether it is a new approach
that they hadn't tried before
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maybe they were Catholic and
they decide to try Buddhism or
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something like that or maybe
they're Buddhist and they just
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try to follow the
path of Catholicism.
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But the idea that you
look for that path that is
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individualised to you and for
any given individual
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the experience of enlightenment can
be many and varied,
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and for some people it is
within a religious tradition
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for others it is through their
own private practice of
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loving kindness meditation,
mindfulness, some other prayer
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practice or something
like that.
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And some people that just had
some walking down the street!
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Now I mean obviously those are
the people who kind of
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win the lottery so to speak.
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But there are ways of trying to
purposely work towards those
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experiences and ultimately try
to release oneself from that,
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that whole process so that one
gets to an experience of
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enlightenment and sees the
world in a different kind of way,
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and I think that even proceeding
down the path itself is part of how
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our brain starts to incorporate those
kinds of ideas and feelings
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and we begin to learn about other
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ways of thinking about the
world and being open to them.
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So it's a complex path but it
is a path that certainly I think
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is worth following.
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Whether one ultimately
gets to enlightenment or not
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may not even
be the final word.
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It's really the path itself
that becomes so powerful and
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changes the person's brain and
changes the way they think
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about the world.
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We also spoke about the idea
that part of what happens in
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the context of these very
intense enlightenment
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experiences is that you feel as
if you are not making them
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happen, you're sort of
surrendering yourself
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to these experiences.
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Well the frontal lobe is what
helps us to feel like we are
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purposely engaged in something
that we're purposely trying
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to do something.
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And so when we look at the
frontal lobes what we see is
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that when a person starts to
feel that sense of surrender,
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that they're not making it happen,
these areas that are mostly
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in kind of a red and sort of
intense yellow area
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these areas start to quiet down,
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now it's almost in these green
kind of colors,
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as the frontal lobe shuts down
we lose our sense of
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purposefulness our willfulness
and we feel a sense of
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surrendering to that experience.
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Our study for example of
Islamic prayer showed these
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very specific kinds of changes
and of course in Islam,
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the whole concept is the
notion of surrendering to God.
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And so we see this kind of
decrease of activity in the
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frontal lobes that seems to be
associate with very intense
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Islamic prayer as well as other
types of practices where
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the person feels that
they are surrendering
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their own wilfulness,
their own consciousness
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to the belief, to the tradition
that they feel connected to.
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Everybody says: oh yeah, that sounds like that's great for me. Let me become enlightened and it's not an easy process obviously. Buddhist monks spend 30, 40 years trying to achieve enlightenment and some do and some don't. So there's no one size fits all it's not, there's no guarantee but part of what we have learned again by looking at this survey and thinking about this process, is: one you have to want to have some change occur in your life. And whether that is just to become a more open individual whether it is, you know, we all are living through our brain. Our brain is interpreting the world around us and it's doing the best job it can. But it's a scary world out there. And we have no real way of knowing if what we think on the inside is accurate. So the idea of can we learn about the world in a different way and make that kind of a change is an important one. Part of the Enlightenment process is to find the ritual that ultimately, the process that ultimately works best for you and whether it is a spiritual or religious approach through a tradition that a person grew up in, whether it is a new approach that they hadn't tried before maybe they were Catholic and they decide to try Buddhism or something like that or maybe they're Buddhist and they just try to follow the path of Catholicism. But the idea that you look for that path that is individualised to you and for any given individual the experience of enlightenment can be many and varied, and for some people it is within a religious tradition for others it is through their own private practice of loving kindness meditation, mindfulness, some other prayer practice or something like that. And some people that just had some walking down the street! Now I mean obviously those are the people who kind of win the lottery so to speak. But there are ways of trying to purposely work towards those experiences and ultimately try to release oneself from that, that whole process so that one gets to an experience of enlightenment and sees the world in a different kind of way, and I think that even proceeding down the path itself is part of how our brain starts to incorporate those kinds of ideas and feelings and we begin to learn about other ways of thinking about the world and being open to them. So it's a complex path but it is a path that certainly I think is worth following. Whether one ultimately gets to enlightenment or not may not even be the final word. It's really the path itself that becomes so powerful and changes the person's brain and changes the way they think about the world. We also spoke about the idea that part of what happens in the context of these very intense enlightenment experiences is that you feel as if you are not making them happen, you're sort of surrendering yourself to these experiences. Well the frontal lobe is what helps us to feel like we are purposely engaged in something that we're purposely trying to do something. And so when we look at the frontal lobes what we see is that when a person starts to feel that sense of surrender, that they're not making it happen, these areas that are mostly in kind of a red and sort of intense yellow area these areas start to quiet down, now it's almost in these green kind of colors, as the frontal lobe shuts down we lose our sense of purposefulness our willfulness and we feel a sense of surrendering to that experience. Our study for example of Islamic prayer showed these very specific kinds of changes and of course in Islam, the whole concept is the notion of surrendering to God. And so we see this kind of decrease of activity in the frontal lobes that seems to be associate with very intense Islamic prayer as well as other types of practices where the person feels that they are surrendering their own wilfulness, their own consciousness to the belief, to the tradition that they feel connected to.